Q1 2026 Earnings Call Transcript

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. My name is Abby, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Bloom Energy First Quarter 2026 Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] And I would now like to turn the conference over to Michael Tierney, Vice President, Investor Relations. You may begin.

Thank you, and good afternoon, everybody. Thank you for joining us for Bloom Energy's First Quarter 2026 Earnings Call. To supplement this conference call, we furnished our first quarter 2026 earnings press release and supplemental financial information with the SEC on Form 8-K and have posted these materials, which we will reference throughout this call to our Investor Relations website. During this conference call, both in our prepared remarks and in answers to your questions, we may make forward-looking statements that represent our expectations regarding future events and our future financial performance.

These include statements about the company's business results, products, technology, customers, new markets, strategy, financial and competitive position, investments, liquidity and full year outlook for 2026. These statements, which relate to matters including time to both power and market with standard for on-site power cost efficiency, capacity expansion, innovation, affordability and community acceptance as we look to keep pace with the rapid evolution of our markets are predictions based upon our expectations, estimates and assumptions. However, as these statements deal with future events, they are subject to numerous known and unknown risks and uncertainties, as discussed in detail in our documents filed with the SEC, including our most recently filed Forms 10-K and 10-Q.

We assume no obligation to revise any forward-looking statements made on today's call. During this call and in our first quarter 2026 earnings press release and supplemental financial information, we refer to GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures. The non-GAAP financial measures are not prepared in accordance with U.S. generally accepted accounting principles and are in addition to and not a substitute for or superior to measures of financial performance prepared in accordance with GAAP. A reconciliation between the GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures is included in these materials, which are available on our Investor Relations website.

Joining me today are K.R. Sridhar, Founder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; and Simon Edwards, our Chief Financial Officer. K.R. will begin with an overview of our progress, and then Simon will review financial highlights for the quarter. After our prepared remarks, we will have time to take your questions.

I now turn the call over to K.R.

Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us today. Bloom delivered a record first quarter. Revenue, gross margin and operating income all came in materially above our prior outlook based on what we are seeing across the business, we are also raising our full year guidance and raising it materially. We will walk through the numbers in a few minutes but first, I want to talk about what is happening in our market because the headline numbers as strong as they are, are a lagging indicator and don't convey the whole story.

Fee at Bloom are ushering in the era of digital power for the digital age. Now the marketplace is recognizing and embracing our proposition of clean, reliable on-site power that is community-friendly and deployed at the speed of AI. Bloom is rapidly becoming the standard and go-to choice for on-site power. Last night, Oracle announced a new power paradigm for Project Jupiter, a multi-gigawatt AI factory to be built in New Mexico.

We are thrilled to partner with Oracle and applaud them for their visionary leadership. This up to 2.45 gigawatt power block will replace Project Jupiter's previously planned gas turbines and backup diesel generators with Bloom Energy Servers. It will be 100% bloom. When completed, it will be one of the largest islanded microgrid power facilities in the world.

Oracle pivoted to Bloom only solution for 2 main reasons: first, be a responsible corporate citizen and partner by being responsive to resident concerns about air quality, water use, noise and increasing electricity rates. Second, to stand up their grid independent and clean AI factory with even greater reliability and speed. Bloom is the cleanest commercially available on-site power generation option for such data centers and the most water efficient. Even Blooms community-friendly attributes, Oracle should be able to energize the campus materially faster than any other available alternative solution in the market.

At a time where every quarter of delay translates into hundreds of millions in foregone AI revenue and loss of competitive advantage. Speed of powered infrastructure development is the difference between leading and following. Becoming the sole power provider for Project Jupiter is a milestone for Bloom, but it's not going to be a one-off project, where Oracle is going is where the broader market is headed. On our Q3 call, I described our playbook for becoming the standard.

In each vertical, we established credibility with the lighthouse customer then build on that success with other Tier 1 customers. 2 quarters later, that's exactly what's happening across the AI ecosystem. Oracle is rightfully getting headline attention today. But well more than half of our current data center backlog comes from other hyperscalers, neo clouds and colocation providers. just like the Oracle Jupiter project, these microgrid installations will use no grid, no dirty diesel generators for backup. No battery banks for load following.

No engines, no turbines, just bloom and Bloom alone. We are continuing to engage with more hyperscalers and new clouds by signing new contracts and slot reservations and working with them to evaluate many new opportunities. Our pipeline today is diverse and robust in the AI segment. Parenthetically, let me also remind you that this is a recent repeat of our C&I business playbook.

That segment is also experiencing strong demand is diverse and continuing to grow. I want to give you a perspective on why we are experiencing the hyper growth because it will shape how you think of Bloom going forward? For over 25 years, we built this company around the conviction that clean, reliable, affordable on-site power would become essential to a digital world. The market is now validating that vision at scale and AI power demand is simply accelerating it.

Time to power has gone from a procurement consideration to an existential necessity. The company is driving the AI transformation are raising against each other on the one hand. And on the other, bumping into the bottlenecks comment to building conventional infrastructure such as permissions, permits and community acceptance. The winner will be the one who can grow and deploy faster and on the schedule, the market demands.

You see that's a different game than the one the legacy power industry is set up to play. Their model is industrial. Long cycle times, capital heavy capacity additions, product improvement measured over decades rather than quarters, our model is different at every layer we innovate and improve continuously, be it in our technology, in our product in how we manufacture in our capital intensity in how we deploy in how we operate and service our systems and in time to market. That is what allows us to deliver double-digit cost reductions year after year expand capacity with materially less capital than industrial era players and meet our customers' schedule needs.

Our differentiated and unique operating rhythm and mindset will be obvious to you if you visited our factory floor. It's a state-of-the-art production facility a busy construction zone and a buzzing innovation hub. We are manufacturing product on schedule to meet customer needs, adding lines and expanding capacity to meet growing demand and innovating to reduce cycle times, space needs and costs. Product manufacturing, capacity expansions and innovation, all occurring concurrently all the time, all under the same roof and all with factory floor team members and engineers working as 1 team for 1 common purpose.

To be better tomorrow than we are today and keep marching towards the north star of maximum entitlement. This is an example of our operating model. We call it the Bloom way. As a result of this approach, the contrast and outcomes is simple.

Their supply to current orders arrive only in 2029 or later, irrespective of the customers' needs. Hours arrived this year or the next or whenever the customer is ready. Based on demand profile, we have now shifted to adding capacity continuously. Hundreds of megawatts a quarter as opposed to lumpy one-off additions to be completed in a year's time.

How we think about and execute on capacity addition is one of the clearest ways to see what makes Bloom different. The traditional power industry has been the past 2 years, celebrating its backlog that is 4 and 5 years out. Backlog at that scale and time frame in the age of AI is a result of their constrained supply. At Bloom, we see it differently.

Our ability to expand capacity is our competitive advantage. We want to rapidly build capacity, build product help build productive AI factories to help build commercial and industrial facilities and help build our economy, not just be satisfied with simply building backlog. Our current manufacturing footprint will allow us to deliver 5 gigawatts of product annually. We will expand to that capacity and meet the delivery dates needed by our customers.

In other words, today, we are not order constrained and not capacity constrained. The pace of our revenue growth is decided by how fast our customers can build their greenfield sites, not how fast we can power them. We will never be a bottleneck to our customers. We built our business around that promise.

Going beyond the 5 gigawatt capacity, our supply chain and manufacturing strategy and planning allows us to build that capacity significantly faster than any other option in the market using our copy exact model. We will strive to bring power to our customers faster than they can stand up their greenfield facilities. We were able to make that promise because we invested deliberately ahead of demand. We expanded manufacturing capacity, built inventory, diversified our supply chain, strengthened our balance sheet and assembled an ecosystem of long-term supply partners that scales with us.

Given our low capital intensity, those investments carried materially lower risk for shareholders than they would have for an industrial or a supplier. They were disciplined decisions made with conviction that this market shift was coming. While our new orders that we are telling you today are news to you, we have advanced visibility and anticipated such wins for months. So we planned out our capacity expansions accordingly.

Our strategy and judicious investments have positioned us to become the standard for both on-site power and time to power. Beyond speed, our architecture creates real flexibility for our customers. Our modular copy exact systems are portable and fungible and meet air quality requirements in virtually all jurisdictions. If a customer needs to shift deployment from 1 site to another, our master services agreement is structured to enable that.

With the master service agreement, our hyperscale customers have the geographic flexibility to move a bloom deployment from 1 site to another based on a speed up at 1 site or a delay in another. Bloom moves with the customer to the location where the GPUs are ready to convert the power to tokens of intelligence and revenue dollars. Unlike a traditional power plant, our platform is also a different kind of neighbor in a community. We are community friendly.

As more on-site generation gets deployed to support AI and industrial growth, communities care deeply about what kind of infrastructure shows up next door. Bloom preserves local air quality, we do not combust and pollute the air like conventional technologies. We use minimal water edge startup and none during normal operations. we acquired compact and efficient with land use. We integrate well with environments rather than disrupt them and become an ISR.

As permits and permissions become the gating factor for AI infrastructure, community acceptance matters increasingly. Our fully landed grid-independent one-stop full stack power solution does not raise the monthly electricity bill for community residents and brings them economic development without compromises. The cost equation has also shifted in our favor. We have spent years driving down product cost while improving performance.

That work is meeting the market at exactly the right time. our energy servers are now cost competitive with grid power in most U.S. markets and with off-grid alternatives in nearly all markets. With over a decade of double-digit cost reductions, we remain the only on-site generation solution with a sustained downward sloping cost curve. As affordability of power becomes a national issue, we expect to become the solution of choice from that perspective also. Bloom delivers a value proposition built on the principle of and not all, customers can have the power that is clean and reliable and fast and affordable.

Now to our outlook for the year. To say that the commercial landscape is fluid and dynamic would be a massive understatement. The strength of the quarter and the commercial momentum we see across the board gives us conviction and confidence to raise guidance materially. We are raising 2026 revenue guidance of $3.1 billion to $3.3 billion to $3.4 billion to $3.8 billion.

At the midpoint, that takes growth from 60% year-over-year to 80%. We are also raising our gross margin outlook from 32% to 34% barring any global shock or exogenous factors. You can see, we are prioritizing growth and profitability in equal measure. Now I want to introduce Simon Edwards, who recently joined Bloom as our Chief Financial Officer.

Over the past year, we have been deliberate in our search. It was important to us that we not only find the right CFO for Bloom today, but the right leader and business partner to help bloom scale for the future. Simon brings a rare combination of capabilities. With the systems engineering background, he has built disciplined operating models and scaled manufacturing operations for complex systems as CFO of leading software franchises, he has applied a digitally native approach to building businesses, leveraging data and analytics as competitive advantage and employed automation for speed and efficiency.

His time at Grok has given him a front-row seat to the explosive growth occurring across AI. All of that translates directly to where Bloom is headed. I also want to thank [indiscernible] and the finance team for their outstanding work in supporting the business without missing a beat during last year. Their performance speaks to the depth of the bloom talent at all levels.

I'm proud. Finally, to the Bloom team, thank you. What you've built over more than 2 decades is meeting the market at exactly the right moment. You believed and always knew that an inflection point would come.

None of what we see today would be possible, but for your faith, dedication, diligence and discipline, much gratitude. With that, Simon, a very warm welcome, and the mic is yours.

Thank you, K.R. I appreciate the kind words today and the warm welcome that I've received here at Bloom over the past couple of weeks. I'm excited to be part of the Bloom team and to be speaking for the first time on a Bloom earnings call. I chose to join Bloom for a few reasons.

First, K.R. talked about the architectural shift driving a large TAM with increasing momentum. Having seen the powerful tailwinds around AI infrastructure and electrification, I recognize very real bottlenecks in power availability. Bloom is uniquely positioned to address that challenge with a long-term opportunity that extends well beyond AI. Second, Bloom is a Silicon Valley innovator, solving an industrial problem.

I was drawn to balloons visionary leadership and the depth and quality of the leadership team. There is a clear strategy, strong alignment and a mindset focused on building something enduring that starts with K.R. and permeate through the entire organization. And third, this is a chance to help build a truly generational company, one that can capitalize on long runway for growth and create long-term value for customers and shareholders. Since joining 2 weeks ago, I have already been impressed by what I have seen.

The team is highly engaged and motivated. The demand environment and pipeline are exceptionally strong, and there is a clear bias towards the results. turning that demand into delivered systems, cash flow and sustainable performance. In addition, the sense of mission is clearly apparent among Bloom's employees. Many of our employees have been here for 10 to 15 years, long before AI was a common phrase.

These employees stayed here because they believe in the Bloom mission. To make clean, reliable energy affordable for everyone in the world. This is a driving force behind everything we do here at Bloom and the mission I'm excited to be part of. Moving to our numbers.

I will discuss our Q1 financial performance and make a few comments about what we expect in 2026. Highlights include record Q1 revenue with year-over-year growth of more than 100%, continued year-over-year gross margin expansion and record Q1 cash flow. As a reminder, I will focus my discussion on non-GAAP adjusted financial metrics. For a reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP, please see our press release and the supplemental deck on our website. Revenue for the quarter was $751.1 million up 13.4% year-over-year.

This is the first quarter of greater than 100% year-over-year growth in Bloom's history as a public company. Product revenue was up both year-over-year and sequentially. The reaching an all-time high of $653.3 million for the quarter. Service revenue for the quarter was $61.9 million, up 15.6% year-over-year.

Gross margin for the quarter was 31.5%, up approximately 280 basis points versus last year. Product margins were 35.3%, up 22 basis points from Q1 last year. As we grow, we should see incremental progress on product margins through scale, better absorption of manufacturing overhead and from the continued cost-out efforts across engineering and supply chain. Services margins were 18%, up 13 points from Q1 last year, achieving a double-digit gross margin for the fourth consecutive quarter and profitability for the ninth consecutive quarter.

We expect margins for the services business to continue to benefit from both growth and scale and field performance improvements. Operating income for the quarter was $129.7 million, compared to $13.2 million last year, an increase of $116.5 million with operating margins reaching 17.3%, up more than 1,300 basis points year-over-year. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $143 million compared to $25.2 million last year, an increase of $117.8 million with EBITDA margin expanding by more than 1,100 basis points to approximately 19%. This margin expansion highlights the significant operating leverage in the model as revenue growth continues to outpace cost growth.

Non-GAAP fully diluted EPS for the quarter was $0.44 versus $0.03 a year ago. While we will continue to invest to support the growth ahead of us, I'm impressed so far with Bloom's ability to deliver at an increasing scale while managing costs through both operational efficiency and gaining leverage through technology adoption. As K.R. mentioned earlier, we are rapidly expanding capacity through our innovative manufacturing model, which allows us to scale in months, not years. That growth requires upfront working capital to support higher production and deliveries.

Even with those investments, cash flow from operating activities was an inflow of $73.6 million, positive for the first time in the first quarter of the year, which is typically a seasonally weaker period. This was driven by a step change in profitability, strong collections and customer prepayments to reserve capacity. We ended Q1 with $2.52 billion in total cash on the balance sheet. Turning to guidance.

After a strong start to the year, and anticipating that Q2 revenue should be at least as good as Q1, we are raising our fiscal 2026 guidance to new levels. We are increasing our revenue projections from the previous range of $3.1 billion to $3.3 billion up to a range of $3.4 billion to $3.8 billion, with the lower end of the updated range sitting above the upper bound of the prior range. This updated guidance represents 80% year-over-year growth at the midpoint and reflects the progress we have made in adding manufacturing capacity, the strength and velocity of our pipeline and the opportunity to continue to prosecute a healthy backlog.

We now expect our non-GAAP gross margin to increase from 30% in 2025 to approximately 34% in 2026. We representing about a 4-point improvement year-over-year to 2 points above our original guidance as we realized the impact of ongoing cost optimization and productivity initiatives. Our non-GAAP operating income expectation is now $600 million to $750 million, acknowledging the higher revenue and margin flow through, but also recognizing that we plan to invest to support the growth for this year and the future. Our non-GAAP fully diluted EPS expectation is now $1.85 to $2.25. To conclude, we delivered record Q1 financial results, and we are optimistic in our full year 2026 financials being the best in Bloom history.

I'm looking forward to working with KR and the entire Bloom team and spending time with our analysts and shareholders. Operator, we are now happy to take questions

[Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from the line of Mark Strouse with JPMorgan.

Maybe starting with Simon. So first of all, congrats on the new role, and welcome to the fray here. You mentioned kind of how you're impressed with the operating leverage in the business. I'm just curious, I fully appreciate you haven't been there very long, but kind of your initial take...

Go-to-market. There's a number of growth factors that we're exploring. Obviously, from a technology standpoint, growth is highly innovative, and we're investing in innovative areas. And then on top of all of that, I think KR has mentioned in the past, cost reduction is in the DNA of Bloom.

And so I think really what we're focused on is, a, how do we execute on the projects in the plan right now that deliver on the gross margin expansion that we've highlighted. Second is, as you look at our updated guide, you'll see there's incremental operating margin expansion baked into the revised guidance. And then finally, as it relates to longer-term guidance here, I don't think that's something we'll provide right now, but continuing to execute on these vectors is something that I know everyone here is very focused on.

Got it. If I could ask one more follow-up to K.R. Clearly, your orders are accelerating here. I'm curious if you can comment on what you're seeing with your service contracts, particularly the duration of those contracts is I think in the past, you've said some of these data center contracts have been somewhere around 6 or 7 years in duration.

I'm curious if you're seeing any change there potentially longer than 10 years or so somewhat similar to your C&I business.

Mark, thank you. And look, I think it's important because some people may be coming in new into the story, we have a 100% attach rate between our product sales and our service. That's the first place to start. There is not a single deal that we do without an attach rate to our service.

Even with the data center opportunities, on average, it's 10 to 15 years, somewhere in that range. And so it's a tremendous source of annuity revenue that we see. And you can see us executing on the margin targets that we have provided. So it's going to be a phenomenally great business for us going forward, along with our product business.

And our next question comes from the line of David Arcaro with Morgan Stanley.

Congratulations on the results here, and a warm welcome to Simon as well from me. But maybe I was wondering if you could touch on the pricing backdrop that you're seeing. I'm wondering if you're seeing opportunities to hold pricing or potentially seeing projects with increased price opportunities in the current environment just where we're seeing -- it seems like all other alternatives are increasing cost to the customer.

So we completely distinguish and think differently about this. at the end of the day, we don't compare our pricing with engines and turbines. It's apples and oranges. We are creating a completely different value for our customer. be it 800 old DC being eliminating all the paraphernalia, the Band-Aids as I've called them to a mechanical solution going to a digital age, be it the amount of overbuild that you need to have when it comes to getting the reliability that you need because it's very obvious, these big projects are not going to have grid backing it up. . The local rate payer is not going to be providing that reliability for free.

And so you bake all that in, we just always focus not on cost, not on price. Obviously, we are going to create margin for the business. And as the first question was asked to Simon, we will focus on that. But at the end of the day, we're going to build our business with our partners.

By creating value for them and creating value for us. So we don't look at anybody else's pricing and what they do. Thank you.

Understood. Yes, that's helpful. I appreciate you characterizing that. And I was wondering as you look to ramp up your scale significantly here, could you also speak to how you're seeing the supply chain and its ability to ramp with you? We've seen labor as an example, become a constraint elsewhere. I'm wondering pressure there or in upstream materials?

That's a great question, David. Thanks for asking. And because that's a significant distinguisher between what we do and what other people do. So if you had come to our factory and seen the few hundred people that we have manufacturing our stacks than we were doing 200 megawatts a year.

And if you came at the end of this year when we will be doing almost 10x that amount, the number of employees on the shop store will be the same not almost equal, will be the same. And that is the innovation we bring into the field, knowing that for us, automation and figuring out how to train our existing employees, upskill them as they grow. And by the way, most of them happen to be the same employees, too. They are upskilled from doing that manual labor to automation.

That's why with their hub, as you heard in my script, in the shop floor, we don't talk in harsh stones about bringing automation to remove a particular manual process out because our team members are actively involved in it. And this is the same philosophy with which we are approaching our supply, we have approached our supply chain and are approaching our supply chain because these were custom suppliers built for us in whom we expected that same Bloom way mentality, and we're enforcing it. So the ramps you're talking about are [ pre-seed ] brands. Can you hit some speed bumps along the way, maybe, but are we worried about it or lose sleep or think that we cannot get over those bumps?

Absolutely not. We are confident in being able to deliver the promises we make to our customers, not just because we have a very good manufacturing shop. For us, that manufacturing extends to our supply chain partners, and they adopt the same philosophy. Thank you.

Our next question comes from the line of Chris Dendrinos with RBC Capital Markets.

Just echoing the congratulations on the strong quarter and welcome to Simon. I guess my question here is, if I go back last quarter, you had talked about scaling capacity as your customers call in to order that. Now you're talking about continuous capacity increases. So I'm just wondering if you could provide a bit more color sort of on what's changed here in the past months that changes that approach?

And what are you seeing from your conversations with customers to give you confidence to continue to expand here?

Chris, thank you for that question. Look, to say that business is accelerating as an understatement. Okay? We are very, very clearly seeing that demand.

And we just don't look at the demand is coming to us at any point in time in isolation. VRA power company embedded in Silicon Valley, and we understand the end-user technology extremely well. We can get into the basics of what is happening in the field of AI and understand why that demand is going to be there and I can tell you, this is a secular demand that's going to last for many, many years to come. It is with that conviction when we draw to that conviction and we understand.

We talked -- if you remember a couple of calls ago, about people just grasping on the crumbs of utility capacity being available. Those comps have been eaten up. So we clearly see where this is going to go. And we see what we fundamentally see is the following: the amount of demand that is being generated and the rate at which that's growing is significantly faster than what alternative providers of power can create.

That creates a beautiful opportunity for us that we see over many, many years, and it gives us the confidence to be able to say we are now going to continuously grow. So think of Bloom's capacity increase as an analog dial that constantly keep increasing as opposed to some digital step function that happens once in a while.

Got it. And I guess maybe just as a follow-up to that, and that step function comment. I mean is there a step function between going to 5 gigawatts and then maybe going beyond 5 gigawatts. Do you need to see something different from like a customer commitment schedule to add physical footprint? Or do you think about absolutely adding an extra facility the same way.

Yes. That's a valid question. Absolutely. So the answer would be the following, right?

As we said there, whenever we made that statement to you, their existing facility was 5 gigawatts. In my script, I talked about we are constantly innovating. I don't know how much more we can milk out of it. But no matter what we do, we are going to need new factories as we go forward.

Bloom was built on the vision of lighting up the planet. Okay? 5 gigawatts a year or 6 gigawatts a year is not going to light up the planet. So we are going to build factories as needed. And that's just going to be a normal course of operation for us and the step functions at which we grow will purely depend on where the market is and where the market needs us.

And our next question comes from the line of Nick Amicucci with Evercore ISI.

Great. and welcome, Simon, look forward to working with you in the future. Quick question for you, K.R. Just kind of piggybacking on Chris' question. So when we're kind of seeing that -- seeing demand and it's not coming through an isolation.

Is it fair to say, too, that the vast majority, if not all, of the backlog currently is probably tethered towards your towards like AI training. And then there's conceivably an incremental leg of growth when we kind of think about inference and just the lack of need for air permits and kind of the ease of siting and permitting and so on?

You're absolutely right. Let me tweak your statement in the following way. influence is going to be much bigger than training in terms of total gigawatt need. But it is going to be not concentrated in the multi-gigawatt data centers that you're looking at. And think about this influence by definition, is at the edge, a lot closer to highly dense populations of people and processes.

If you're seeing the resistance you're seeing today to a conventional power plant being built in the backyard of a large training data center that happens to be in a small remote town. Just think about what that resistance would be in a city if you don't have clean solutions. Let me put this in perspective for you, okay? You just heard about the Oracle announcement of up to 2.45 gigawatts.

I'm going to use that as an example, not that particular site, take that number. think about a 2.5 gigawatt power block that needs to power a large training data center somewhere. The obvious example that you would go to would be a large CCGT, a bunch of large CCGT with gas to be able to provide the power. To put it in perspective for the people listening on this call, that is the capacity of the state of Rhode Island in one single data center. And that happens to be, if you use CCGT you will use all the water that all residents used to shower a day in Rhode Island just to power that power plant close to 1 million showers a day.

And it will create not from it, air pollution that is the equivalent of all the cars in Rhode Island almost in that one location. So even in a remote town, you can understand why there's a pushback and why clean is going to be important. If that's how important it is for a large data center, Imagine now for influence where it's going to go. So we see that as a huge opportunity coming our way as we go forward.

Great. No, that's definitely helpful. And then , as we think about -- obviously, there are certain kind of other, I guess, product on competitors kind of coming out with kind of solutions that are more of a bridge power type of solution. Are there any conversations that you guys are having with kind of your hyperscaler customers or the neo class where it's kind of -- we want to leverage the fuel cell to get up and running speed to power is paramount, but ultimately still feel the need to be grid tied or just given the reliability attributes of your fuel cell offering, is that kind of a moot point?

Earlier in this conversation, they used to bring up the concept of Bridge power with us. And I would smile and always say we're happy to sell you a bridge to a bridge because Superman coming, okay? So today, that conversation is nonexisting.

And our next question comes from the line of Manav Gupta with UBS.

Had somewhat of 2 technical questions and ask them together. While there are other solutions, but they do depend very heavily on battery packs, for load balancing and backup, batteries are expensive, they decay they take place and they generate heat. Your solution with ultracapacitor and high reliability needs minimal battery backup. In some cases, no battery backup.

So can you talk about that? And the second question is, as it is getting clear that cyber and Rubin are the future those building those hyperscalers are looking for conversion parts that can help them go from you have [ 415-volt DC ] to 800-volt DC. Now based on the channel checks we have done, large power transformers, medium board switch gears, centralized rectifiers are all seeing long queues and delays in shipment again, your solution avoids those costs and those delays. So can you talk a little about these 2 factors?

Manav, thank you. Do you want to come work for us? You're making a very good sales pitch here for Bloom. Obviously.

Look, this is what you're saying is very true. Here are the 2 things. Number 1 we are purpose-built and purpose designed to provide digital part or digital age. . Now it is fully understandable as I see it for large data centers to be extremely cautious about introducing any new technology, until it's proven out because the stakes are very high for them.

So we had to pay our deals and slowly get in and become a pull the solution out, using AC, using all their backup generation, everything. But today and the most important point I want to highlight to you from like today's script that you saw from me. It's not just the deal we did with Orca, but we talked about several other projects we're working on, where there is no grid connectivity. There is no diesel backup generators.

There are no turbines and there are no occasions. And like you correctly pointed out, there are no batteries because 100% bloom one-stop solution can solve that for them in our combined solution between our fuel cells and our ultra cats, okay? So that has to start resonating and it started resonating. Now the next step is for them to go straight to that 800-volt DC.

It is -- as I see it, it's self-evident to me that, that is going to come. It's inevitable that they're going to switch to that. because the world does not have enough copper like you pointed out, the world does not have enough transformers. So necessity is going to force them there. And once they try it, they will not go back on it.

And our next question comes from the line of Ben Kallo with Baird.

Congrats and welcome, Simon. K.R., I wanted to talk just maybe on the demand front and just the different channels, we saw your largest utility deal, and you've had utility deals before. . Now, obviously, with Oracle and hyperscalers you have repeat customers there. How do you think it evolves where the growth comes from additional hyperscalers?

Is there a new channel like midstream gas companies, something like that? And then how do we think about the international side of the business? Like is that kind of a delayed growth area, just kind of lagging what the U.S. is doing here? And then I have a follow-up.

Great questions. So let me be quick and answer those questions in the following way. You're absolutely right. What we are doing in AI right now is truly a rinse and repeat of what we have done in the commercial and industrial space, right?

Work hard, get a pilot with a lighthouse customer delight them, scale out with them. use them as a reference, sign on brand-new customers and continue to build and 70% to 80% of our business kept coming from repeat customers who are very, very happy. . That's exactly what we set out to do in AI, and we are doing this. Now with the utility scale customers, for the first time, I think they are seeing favorable regulation that allows them to rate base and offer better solutions to their customers. So we see a strong interest coming from both gas utilities and electric utilities to say in the face of that favorable regulatory and price design, rate design environment, can we partner with you.

We're always happy to partner with them. right? And our commercial industrial business is robust, strong and growing just the size of these big AI deals make us focus there. But trust me, we have a very active group prosecuting these orders. And think about the reshoring of big factories to America.

How are they going to get the power -- we see that as a huge opportunity for us. So we are fully engaged in it. Our team is fully engaged in it. We just don't seem to talk more about it because of the size and scale of the AI opportunity right now.

On the international front, look, it's very similar to what you're seeing everywhere else. -- on an 80-20 rule, pretty much the action today on AI and therefore, the huge power needs seem to be in the U.S., and that's what us and everybody else is focused on. However, we will continue to develop them. We are continuing to develop them. And we believe that there will be a pause before it takes off very clearly what happened with Russia and Europe with natural gas followed up with what's now happening with Qatar and natural gas.

Those things have an impact of slowing down development in those other countries. But we all know it's not if it will happen, when it will happen. So there is going to be a delay, and we are going to be prepared for it when that opportunity comes. Thank you.

And just my follow-up is on the cost front. With everything you have going on just with demand, could you just talk to us about your focus and kind of what you've done and what you plan to do on the stack life and just the total cost of the systems and kind of your pathway forward.

Ben, thank you. If you walk around the floors of gloom, there will be one thing anybody and everybody will tell you, gloom is about the genius of and. It's not about or, okay? So we don't accept false choices.

It's not about growing demand only. It's not just about increasing capacity. It's not just about reducing cost -- it's not about continuously not only about continuously innovating. It's about all of the above all the time.

And people are sick of hearing me talk about the Genius of end. But that is really what's -- how we think or it's not in our recovery. So -- are we continuing to do that? Absolutely.

Should you expect a double-digit cost reduction like we have over the last decade, answer is absolutely yes. We will still focus on that. And in terms of field performance, we continue to improve field performance, and that's the reason you're seeing our service margins to what they are. I'm very proud of our dedicated team.

Thank you.

[Operator Instructions] our next question comes from the line of Colin Rusch with Oppenheimer.

Could you talk about the cadence of your installation times and how we should think about that trending into the balance of the year? And then just a little bit about the potential to leverage some of your available capacity into participation in project level economics for some of your customers?

Yes, that's a great question. So look, we have because we saw this [indiscernible] of demand coming our way and we understood that the primary driver there is going to be time to power. And we also understood that these large data centers prosecute on multiple projects. . Just like any construction project, some are going to get delayed, some are going to be on do, some may speed up and they need that total flexibility.

For all those reasons, we shifted from a have somebody big dirt for concrete, lay the conduits, get the trades people to come there and do all the work to a solution on a skid. That will just show up and get connected with the least amount of work that can happen. What is the result of that? We have closed an order of magnitude reduction in the field time that it takes for us to be able to install our systems.

That's a huge innovation. We have not talked about it at all. now that you're bringing it up, I'm just mentioning it to you. But that's again the genes of and. We just continue to innovate on every single area every single day.

So that's what we see. So I can assure you that we can get a 100-megawatt project up and running faster and with the least amount of field hours than any competing technology out there. So this is this is innovation and all. So thank you for asking that question.

Our next question comes from the line of Maheep Mandloi with Mizuho Securities.

And maybe just quick to first. First, just on the operating leverage. How should we think about that with the volumes to 5 gigawatts here? And separately on the service mix, how much of that 5 gigawatt would be for the service needs in the future here.

Thank you. I'm going to be very quick with that answer. The answer is very simple. We only talk about commercial product capacity. We always bake in our service requirements on its own that skip separately. So when we give you a number that is our commercial product revenue capacity.

And our final question comes from the line of Vikram Bagri with Citi.

Good evening, everyone, and welcome Simon to the team. We clearly are a better stock because that a lot of us on Wall Street. The first question I had here was you highlighted the culture of continuous innovation and improvement that leads to double-digit cost reduction which appears to be a significant advantage, as you highlighted throughout the call versus the competition. I wanted to ask if there is price elasticity to demand.

And I understand you benchmark our pricing against competition, it's apples and oranges, fully understand the benefits of the technology, whether it's speed to power, air quality, water backup and so forth. We're still seeing premium being paid for CCGT, pricing being up 10% to 20% year-to-date this year. Is pricing something that if it goes down over time, we'll see more pronounced market share gains for Bloom from CCGT and the premium for CCGT getting eroded over time. better understanding of the product? Is it seeing the product work at a significantly larger scale at Toreo [indiscernible] of like leads to more market share gains I'm just trying to understand what's the tipping point where you see pronounced market share gains from CCGT and that premium sort of like getting eroded over time.

Thanks, Vikram. You're absolutely right on the cost reduction part. I'm going to indulge you and try to see if you would think about this differently. You're talking about some future tipping point.

The rate of our growth is faster than what any energy technology ever has done in the past, and that's what we see in our pathway. So this is -- for us, it's not a tipping point. Gone are the days , if you just go back to the traditional energy analysts from even a decade ago, just dedicated to 2015, 2016, the utility industries [indiscernible] Institute and all you analysts were talking about a downward spiral for electricity. This is not a zero-sum game.

We don't care about what anybody else in the business does and who buys what from anybody else. We are going to make sure that we are continuously improving our product to offer the best value to our customers, the best neighborly solution to our communities where they operate and create new demand and capture new demand because that new demand is going to be significantly larger than the industrial age demand. The digital age demand is going to be significantly larger, and we are the digital solution to that digital demand. So we don't think about price.

We don't think about cost. We don't think about elasticity. We think about meeting the needs and making sure that we win the AI race. We don't -- or doesn't become an impediment to reassuring factories.

Power doesn't become an impediment to electrification or doesn't become an impediment to digitization first in the United States and then use that model across the world, the power of the planet. That is really what this company is about, and I'm going to use your question as also my closing remarks since we are on the hour and simply state that what Hopefully, what you all understand is the following. Let me make a few statements and ask you to think about would you agree with it or not okay? The use of AI and the amount of power that AI is going to use is going to go up and up over the next few years.

The rate at which that growth has happened is not going to be met just by transmission and distribution upgrades. That means on-site power is absolutely essential. If on-site power is absolutely essential, in no neighborhood, would a community willingly want a power plant in their backyard that pollutes noisy and an is. Bloom offers a no-compromise solution to both the digital customer and any community and neighborhood.

If you bet against any one of the statements that I made you can bet against loan. Otherwise, you've got a great ride with us. Thank you for your attention.

And ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's call, and we thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.