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Analyst
Charlie Muir-Sands
Period: Reporting periods mapped to calendar 2024 Q4 – 2025 Q4 (5 quarters).
- Questions
- 16on tracked calls
- Challenge rate
- 13%2 of 16 questions
- Companies
- 3questioned at least once
- Reporting periods
- 5with questions
These figures cover the whole profile: every tracked question, all reporting periods.
How to read these numbers
Challenge rate is the share of questions that pushed back, pressed for specifics or questioned management’s assumptions. It describes how questions were asked on the calls tracked here; it does not measure whether any view turned out to be right.
Rounding. Rates are rounded to whole percentages, so a small share can show as 0% even when some questions were challenging. The count beside each rate is exact; “none of N questions” means no question was challenging.
No questions recorded. “—” means there is nothing to calculate: no questions were recorded for that period on the calls tracked here. It does not mean there was no activity.
Fewer than 3 questions. A company-level rate is withheld when fewer than 3 questions were recorded for that company; the questions are still counted everywhere else.
Small samples. Profiles with fewer than 10 questions are marked Limited sample.
Reporting periods. Questions are grouped by the calendar quarter each company’s fiscal reporting period maps to, not by the date of the call. Periods without a calendar mapping are listed separately under their fiscal label.
Questions asked
Grouped by company, most questions first. Open a company to read its questions, newest reporting period first.
Showing 16 of 16 questions from 3 companies
SWSmurfit WestRock7 questions · 4 reporting periods · 0 of 7 challenging
Calendar 2025 Q3
Just wondered if you could elaborate on the main outstanding uncertainties for the range
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Ken cited December demand as main swing factor. On $400M+ operational improvements, said NA margin performance already reflects a chunk coming through, particularly in corrugated division. Very comfortable if not more comfortable with well in excess of synergy target.
what kind of thresholds are you typically setting for the investments you want to make in the business
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Ken described portfolio approach targeting ~20% blended IRR and mid-teens ROCE. Cost takeout projects get higher returns, sustainability/energy projects may have lower early-year returns but improve over time.
Calendar 2025 Q2
Is there any possibility of putting any kind of dollar numbers around the level of losses you think that on a fully costed basis, that, that business was dragging profits historically
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Tony framed the opportunity: ~$10B sales box plant system should target 8-12% margins ($800M-$1.2B EBITDA), but was loss-making last year. This potential is far larger than the synergy target. Ken clarified flat volumes means H2 vs H1.
Calendar 2025 Q1
the plan for 25 new machines next year. I think it was early days, I appreciate, but does that mean that CapEx in 2026 could be much higher than 2025
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Tony emphasized no 2026 CapEx decisions yet, relatively small amount of capital, and no huge pipeline of big projects for 2026/2027. Stressed agility and owner-operator capital discipline.
just on your 2025 guidance, I just wondered if you could elaborate a little bit around what are the assumptions that go into that
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Tony indicated no significant volume recovery assumed, with value-over-volume likely causing further volume loss but earnings improvement. Ken noted the big change from February is the $100M incremental Q2 downtime (originally expected $10-15M).
Calendar 2024 Q4
can you give any color on whether you think maintenance costs are going to be particularly different year-on-year or quarter-on-quarter
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Ken confirmed maintenance downtime is $10M less in Q1 vs Q4, with demand starting well and most cost inputs stable.
I just wondered, if you could give us a little bit more color on some specific examples, and particularly what actions you've taken so far and what are planned to be implemented in 2025
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Tony and Ken provided specifics: commercial underpricing, zero-based budgeting, leveraging scale for insurance/supplier contracts, and driving basics better at plant level.
PKGPackaging Corporation of America5 questions · 4 reporting periods · 1 of 5 challenging
Calendar 2025 Q4
how much more capacity do you think you'll have in a 12 months' time from today versus now?
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Mark said Greif acquisition key to capacity strategy, expects to extract 200K additional tons from the 2-mill system over a couple years, providing growth runway. System will be tight but PCA always looking at the horizon for next capacity source.
is that a fully legacy PCA number? Or is that line getting blurred now?
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Tom confirmed bookings/billings figures are legacy PCA. Greif business visibility shows trends pretty close to legacy numbers though not identical. Systems integration still ongoing.
Calendar 2025 Q2
could you just clarify how much corrugated production or capacity or both the company has or what levels of integration
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Tom confirmed Greif integration 70-75%. Kent said ~5.5% interest on new debt, ~$100M incremental annual interest. Significant operational leverage on incremental volume.
Calendar 2025 Q1
how much of that slowdown do you think that sort of implied there was temporary or were there calendar effects in that?
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Tom attributed Q1 slowdown to weather disruptions and tariff-driven customer caution/destocking. Q2 starting slightly ahead of forecast. Comps remain tough at 9.2% from Q2 2024.
Calendar 2024 Q4
I wondered if you could give us an estimate as to how much you would considered to be a generic maintenance CapEx within the overall budget
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Bob said maintenance typically 60-65% of total, but this year lower percentage due to four big discrete growth projects.
IPInternational Paper4 questions · 2 reporting periods · 1 of 4 challenging
Calendar 2025 Q4
I wonder if you could share any kind of like for like course of pro forma volume performance you've achieved in that region?
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NA volume wins at target quality levels with expanding margins. Won 3-4 points above market in H2. In EMEA, maintaining pricing discipline in soft market, not chasing bad business. Measurable by meters or tons with clear layering into 2026.
Calendar 2024 Q4
can I just clarify, that is the one that you think can unlock around $300 million to $400 million of cost
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Silvernail clarified the $300-400M is split between mill reliability ($175-200M) and broader productivity improvements in both mills and box plants.
the rollout of the lighthouse strategy doesn't necessarily deliver immediate P&L benefits and tailwinds
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Silvernail pushed back, noting lighthouses deliver real P&L benefits starting with stranded cost removal from closed plants plus continuous improvement as volume is absorbed.
I just wondered what we should understand as being the figure now for 2025
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Silvernail did not give specific corporate expense figure but confirmed $120M reduction. Costs being reallocated to business segments where they actually sit.
Challenge rate by company
Every company this analyst questioned, most questions first. A company-level rate is shown from 3 questions; below that it is withheld.
| Company | Questions | Challenge rate |
|---|---|---|
| SW Smurfit WestRock | 7 | 0%none of 7 questions |
| PKG Packaging Corporation of America | 5 | 20%1 of 5 questions |
| IP International Paper | 4 | 25%1 of 4 questions |
Activity by reporting period
Questions recorded for each calendar quarter that companies’ reporting periods map to (not the call date), with the challenge rate for that period. Periods inside the range with no questions are shown as “No questions recorded”.
| Calendar period | Questions | Challenge rate | Companies |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2024 Q4 | 6 | 17%1 of 6 questions | 3 |
| 2025 Q1 | 3 | 33%1 of 3 questions | 2 |
| 2025 Q2 | 2 | 0%none of 2 questions | 2 |
| 2025 Q3 | 2 | 0%none of 2 questions | 1 |
| 2025 Q4 | 3 | 0%none of 3 questions | 2 |
- 2024 Q46 questions · challenge rate 17% (1 of 6 questions) · 3 companies
- 2025 Q13 questions · challenge rate 33% (1 of 3 questions) · 2 companies
- 2025 Q22 questions · challenge rate 0% (none of 2 questions) · 2 companies
- 2025 Q32 questions · challenge rate 0% (none of 2 questions) · 1 company
- 2025 Q43 questions · challenge rate 0% (none of 3 questions) · 2 companies
Topics
Topics tagged on this analyst’s questions.
- Margin5
- Cost Pressure5
- Demand4
- M&A3
- Guidance Reliability3
- Capital Allocation3
- Capex Investment2
- Competitive Dynamics1
- Supply Chain1
- Pricing1