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Josh Raskin

Nephron Research · covers Healthcare

Period: Reporting periods mapped to calendar 2024 Q4 – 2025 Q4 (5 quarters).

Questions
33on tracked calls
Challenge rate
18%6 of 33 questions
Companies
7questioned at least once
Reporting periods
5with questions

These figures cover the whole profile: every tracked question, all reporting periods.

How to read these numbers

Challenge rate is the share of questions that pushed back, pressed for specifics or questioned management’s assumptions. It describes how questions were asked on the calls tracked here; it does not measure whether any view turned out to be right.

Rounding. Rates are rounded to whole percentages, so a small share can show as 0% even when some questions were challenging. The count beside each rate is exact; “none of N questions” means no question was challenging.

No questions recorded. “—” means there is nothing to calculate: no questions were recorded for that period on the calls tracked here. It does not mean there was no activity.

Fewer than 3 questions. A company-level rate is withheld when fewer than 3 questions were recorded for that company; the questions are still counted everywhere else.

Small samples. Profiles with fewer than 10 questions are marked Limited sample.

Reporting periods. Questions are grouped by the calendar quarter each company’s fiscal reporting period maps to, not by the date of the call. Periods without a calendar mapping are listed separately under their fiscal label.

Questions asked

Grouped by company, most questions first. Open a company to read its questions, newest reporting period first.

Showing 33 of 33 questions from 7 companies

CNCCentene Corporation6 questions · 5 reporting periods · 2 of 6 challenging
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Calendar 2025 Q4

Could you just give a little more specifics on your actual segment margins that are in implied in the 2026 guidance

MarginGuidance ReliabilityTranscript · FY2025 Q4 →
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Drew detailed: Medicaid stable HBR year over year, marketplace recovering from -1% to approximately 4% pretax, PDP targeting 2% pretax (down from 3%+ in 2025), MA still slight loss but no PDR needed in 2026 indicating margin progression. Sarah noted premature to set long-term segment targets while policy still shaking out.

Calendar 2025 Q3

how do you get comfortable that you are getting ahead of trend in the exchanges? And do competitor exits make the pool less stable for 2026

ChallengingCompetitive DynamicsPricingTranscript · FY2025 Q3 →
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Sarah detailed 4 components baked into 2026 rates: adjusted 2025 baseline morbidity, healthy trend provision, eAPTC expiry impact, and composite view of program integrity risk pool shifts. September Wakely data consistent with extrapolation.

Calendar 2025 Q2

walk us through your capital position, sort of the amount of capital that you think you'll be adding to your subsidiaries in the second half

Capital AllocationTranscript · FY2025 Q2 →
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Drew confirmed net $300M subsidiary capital infusion needed in 2H, noting $4B undrawn credit facility with 39% debt-to-cap vs 60% covenant provides ample runway.

Calendar 2025 Q1

I didn't hear a commentary around the long-term embedded or earnings. I think you've talked about three to four dollars in the past

Guidance ReliabilityMarginTranscript · FY2025 Q1 →
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Drew confirmed all embedded earnings power drivers intact: Medicaid margin recovery, MA breakeven path, PDP margin expansion from 1% to 3%+, plus $6B more revenue.

how confident are you that these are flu-related and not, you know, related to some uptick in trend that could lead to down utilization

ChallengingCost PressureDemandTranscript · FY2025 Q1 →
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Sarah explained the $130M is isolated to a consistent flu/ILI definition tracked for eight years, consistent with CDC's most acute flu season in fifteen years.

Calendar 2024 Q4

maybe you could speak to your expectations around total exchange market growth when all is said and done in 2025

Subscriber GrowthRegulation PolicyTranscript · FY2024 Q4 →
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Sarah explained effectuation rates in line with norms, FTR impact more muted than expected but may have a longer tail into Q2.

ELVElevance Health5 questions · 5 reporting periods · 1 of 5 challenging
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Calendar 2025 Q4

what gives you that confidence to confirm the long-term EPS growth target of 12% plus starting in 2027

ChallengingGuidance ReliabilityMarginTranscript · FY2025 Q4 →
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Gail outlined three reasons for confidence: key earnings levers already in motion from 2025-2026, 2026 outlook intentionally prudent creating operating leverage capture opportunity, and path built on multiple independent levers not single assumption. Emphasized 2025 was about strengthening the foundation, 2026 about execution.

Calendar 2025 Q3

Maybe if you could just sort of delineate how much of the 125 bps next year is trend running above reimbursement? How much of that is the adverse selection continuing

Cost PressureRegulation PolicyTranscript · FY2025 Q3 →
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Mark deferred specific decomposition to January but noted what changed since July: more 2025 experience, updated state inputs including large states experiencing budget pressure. On coding, confirmed focus on accuracy and compliance with meaningful steps around data capture, clinical documentation, and vendor oversight.

Calendar 2025 Q2

what could be done differently in the future. We've spoken about the potential for risk pool changes, both in the ACA exchanges and on the Medicaid side

PricingRegulation PolicyTranscript · FY2025 Q2 →
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Mark cited CMS marketplace integrity rule provisions as supportive. 2026 rate filings to capture current acuity plus expected further risk pool deterioration. Market likely smaller and higher acuity in 2026.

Calendar 2025 Q1

how important is the lifetime value of the member and the opportunity to penetrate that member with additional, say, Carelon services

Competitive DynamicsInnovation & R&DTranscript · FY2025 Q1 →
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Felicia emphasized lifetime member value in bid strategy. Pete detailed targeted Carelon services: Mosaic primary care, post-acute, CareBridge home health, palliative care, and SpecialtyRx.

Calendar 2024 Q4

Just within the 2025 guidance, can you speak to your expectation for commercial trend and what you priced for

PricingCompetitive DynamicsTranscript · FY2024 Q4 →
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Mark confirmed above-historical commercial trends are fully priced for in a rational, hardened market. Gail explained MA growth trajectory aligns with 2024 cadence pattern.

HCAHCA Healthcare5 questions · 5 reporting periods · 0 of 5 challenging
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Calendar 2025 Q4

can you speak to your technology agenda and where you think the greatest opportunities are for HCA and specifically interested in areas where you think AI can help

Cloud & AIInnovation & R&DTranscript · FY2025 Q4 →
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Sam outlined three AI domains: administrative (revenue cycle, HR, supply chain), operational (throughput, scheduling, staffing, OR management), clinical ('holy grail', physician decision support from proprietary data, nursing safety tools). Accelerating EHR transition to standardize datasets.

Calendar 2025 Q3

We've seen the ratio of EBITDA that converts to free cash flow sort of move from the 30% range into the 40s. And I think this year, you're on track to almost 50%

Capital AllocationMarginTranscript · FY2025 Q3 →
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Mike attributed strong cash flow to EBITDA growth, Parallon revenue cycle strength, robust working capital management, and $1.3B tax deferrals. Long-term cash flow management capabilities viewed as sustainable.

Calendar 2025 Q2

Could you provide just a little bit more color on maybe surgery volumes, both on the inpatient and outpatient side?

DemandCompetitive DynamicsTranscript · FY2025 Q2 →
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Mike noted outpatient surgery cases down 0.6% (improving trend) with 7.5-8% revenue growth. Total outpatient revenue up almost 8%. Inpatient surgeries flat, driven by Medicaid payer mix.

Calendar 2025 Q1

I was looking if you could speak to your technology agenda, maybe specifically some investments that you think differentiate HCA on the clinical care side

Innovation & R&DCloud & AITranscript · FY2025 Q1 →
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Sam outlined three AI categories: administrative (payroll, supply chain, HR), operational (staffing, scheduling, case management), and clinical (obstetrics tools with early success). Noted clinical is early stage.

Calendar 2024 Q4

Could you speak a little bit more to the ASC performance in the quarter? Maybe more specifics on rate versus volume underneath that 5% to 6% revenue growth

Revenue GrowthGeographic ExpansionTranscript · FY2024 Q4 →
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Mike detailed 124 ASCs with revenue up 5-6% despite case volumes down 1%. Sam noted roughly 14 outpatient facilities per hospital on average, with CON states limiting expansion.

HUMHumana5 questions · 5 reporting periods · 0 of 5 challenging
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Calendar 2025 Q4

is there anything you've seen that changes your view the ultimate margin profile of this now larger book of business

MarginCompetitive DynamicsTranscript · FY2025 Q4 →
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Celeste emphasized scale advantage from growth: significant OCR improvement from operating leverage even with Stars headwind. Cost cutting on track with Investor Day. Still has upside from group MA recontracting (several hundred bps to go), Medicaid J-curve, and CenterWell PCO clinic maturation. James reiterated commitment to adapting to wherever final rate notice lands.

Calendar 2025 Q3

is this long-term value member as the North Star a strategic shift for the organization?

MarginCompetitive DynamicsTranscript · FY2025 Q3 →
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David described evolution toward enterprise lifetime value including CenterWell integration. George emphasized multiyear view. Celeste added balance between long-term value and near-term delivery.

Calendar 2025 Q2

I want to confirm that's incremental spend that is in addition to the couple of hundred from 1Q. And then I'm curious why not invest more

Capex InvestmentGuidance ReliabilityTranscript · FY2025 Q2 →
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Celeste confirmed incremental $100M on top of prior several hundred million. Focused on transformation, AI, Stars. James added they pulled forward some 2026 investments but hit operational absorption limits.

Calendar 2025 Q1

Could you provide an overview of the integration strategies you have between the insurance segment and CenterWell?

Innovation & R&DRevenue GrowthTranscript · FY2025 Q1 →
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James described strong patient growth from new clinics and same-store. V28 mitigation spot on. J curves maturing with consistent tranche performance.

Calendar 2024 Q4

You spoke to a few hundred million of investments that are sort of offsetting the underlying earnings growth in 2025. Can you just give some details

Capex InvestmentGuidance ReliabilityTranscript · FY2024 Q4 →
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Celeste confirmed a few hundred million in incremental investments across Stars, clinical excellence, and membership strategies. Declined to break down specific buckets or confirm 2025 as EPS floor.

UNHUnitedHealth Group Incorporated5 questions · 5 reporting periods · 2 of 5 challenging
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Calendar 2025 Q4

think we're at the bottom of the MA cycle now? Should we expect MA margins to improve not just what you mentioned in '26, but in 2027?

MarginCompetitive DynamicsTranscript · FY2025 Q4 →
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Noel said 2026 pricing assumptions holding firm with 50 basis point MA margin improvement on track. Membership losses slightly north of expectations but within internal planning range. 2027 advance notice disappointing and likely requires similar dynamics to 2026 with benefit reductions and footprint reassessment. Too early for 2027 point estimates.

Calendar 2025 Q3

I was wondering if you could just give us a more updated view or a more specific view on the sub businesses in Optum Health

MarginCompetitive DynamicsTranscript · FY2025 Q3 →
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Conway gave revenue breakdown: 65% VBC, 15% fee-for-service care delivery, 20% payer/employer services. Within VBC about two-thirds from UHC and rest from diverse payers. Expects 2025 margins just under 3% with VBC under 1%. Nelson reaffirmed 6-8% long-term margin target and 5% VBC commitment.

Calendar 2025 Q2

Do you have an updated view on your long-term EPS growth rate that, you know, was formerly cited as thirteen to sixteen percent

ChallengingGuidance ReliabilityMarginTranscript · FY2025 Q2 →
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Hemsley called long-term growth rate discussion somewhat academic given restart phase but said framework remains intact. Expects pacing back to low double-digit ranges. Noel confirmed no change to UHC targeted margin ranges with IRA adjustment moving MA from 3-5% to 2-4% mechanically. Commercial 7-9% target unchanged with path to recovery in 2027.

Calendar 2025 Q1

Can you help us connect the higher incidence of primary care visits and the Optum Health pressure?

Competitive DynamicsMarginTranscript · FY2025 Q1 →
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Triggered extended four-person response from Noel, Desai, Cianfrocco, and Witty. Desai explained plan exits in multi-payer geographies like Texas and Washington drove unengaged patients to Optum Health. Cianfrocco gave VBC refresher citing engagement, wraparound services, and behavioral health integration. Witty framed issues as second-order effects of 9% industry-wide price cuts.

Calendar 2024 Q4

the consumer count dropped about 4 million. And then, sort of a noticeable drop in margins

ChallengingCompetitive DynamicsMarginTranscript · FY2024 Q4 →
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Rex attributed to strategic deemphasis of standalone urgent care and narrow offerings. Dr. Desai explained post-V28 reshaping including legacy contract restructuring with one-time impacts. Best-ever patient engagement at 85% of value-based patients.

UHSUniversal Health Services4 questions · 3 reporting periods · 1 of 4 challenging
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Calendar 2025 Q3

when you're negotiating with managed care companies, if you're seeing that revenue number, I think the core acute number of 5% that you guys are throwing out, if you're seeing numbers in that ballp...

ChallengingPricingCompetitive DynamicsTranscript · FY2025 Q3 →
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Miller said UHS now has better data showing where their pricing lags competitors in specific markets. Uses competitive benchmarking data in negotiations to justify rate increases even when overall performance is strong.

an updated view on where you think margins can trend in the next few years, sort of think about prepandemic levels versus the progress you guys have made since the pandemic?

MarginRevenue GrowthTranscript · FY2025 Q3 →
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Filton said revenue growth of 5-6% acute and 6-7% behavioral exceeds cost inflation of ~4%, creating continued margin expansion opportunity. Both businesses able to continue improving margins in environment of stable costs and demand.

Calendar 2025 Q2

are those internal investments? Or are you using external vendors more often now?

Innovation & R&DMarginTranscript · FY2025 Q2 →
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Filton described a mix of internal investment (Hippocratic AI), external vendors (ER coding), and proprietary development. AI coding hasn't elevated coding levels but improved efficiency.

Calendar 2025 Q1

Are you seeing any differences in demand by acuity sort of demand for specific services

DemandGeographic ExpansionTranscript · FY2025 Q1 →
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Filton reported West Henderson achieved positive EBITDA in its first full quarter, better than expected. Behavioral demand remains strong per both macro data and internal inquiries.

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CICigna3 questions · 3 reporting periods · 0 of 3 challenging
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Calendar 2025 Q2

Could you provide an update related to the exchange business on your risk adjustment accruals? It just looked like revenue jumped in 2Q on a PMPM basis by a decent amount

Regulation PolicyPricingTranscript · FY2025 Q2 →
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Brian explained exchange book repositioned from nearly 1M to fewer than 400K customers with pricing double industry average in 2024-2025. Ann noted 2023 RADV adjustment was expected plus modest positive 2024 risk adjustment.

Calendar 2025 Q1

What percentage of your select segment actually takes stop-loss with the ASO versus a full-risk solution

Competitive DynamicsRegulation PolicyTranscript · FY2025 Q1 →
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Brian clarified select funding mix roughly 50/50 insured/ASO. David said MA rate environment strained with V28 phase-in, but EverNorth continues serving MA plans through services portfolio.

Calendar 2024 Q4

are there any potential adjustments to the purchase price based on revenues, membership, MLR, and maybe a comment on the strong membership to start 2025

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Brian confirmed only typical capitalization adjustments remaining. Medicare business saw net growth in 2025 primarily from HMO products in mature markets. One state approval pending.

Challenge rate by company

Every company this analyst questioned, most questions first. A company-level rate is shown from 3 questions; below that it is withheld.

CompanyQuestionsChallenge rate
CNC Centene Corporation633%2 of 6 questions
ELV Elevance Health520%1 of 5 questions
HCA HCA Healthcare50%none of 5 questions
HUM Humana50%none of 5 questions
UNH UnitedHealth Group Incorporated540%2 of 5 questions
UHS Universal Health Services425%1 of 4 questions
CI Cigna30%none of 3 questions
  • CNC
    Centene Corporation · 6 questions
    33%2 of 6 questions
  • ELV
    Elevance Health · 5 questions
    20%1 of 5 questions
  • HCA
    HCA Healthcare · 5 questions
    0%none of 5 questions
  • HUM
    Humana · 5 questions
    0%none of 5 questions
  • UNH
    UnitedHealth Group Incorporated · 5 questions
    40%2 of 5 questions
  • UHS
    Universal Health Services · 4 questions
    25%1 of 4 questions
  • CI
    Cigna · 3 questions
    0%none of 3 questions

Activity by reporting period

Questions recorded for each calendar quarter that companies’ reporting periods map to (not the call date), with the challenge rate for that period. Periods inside the range with no questions are shown as “No questions recorded”.

Questions by calendar reporting period
Calendar periodQuestionsChallenge rateCompanies
2024 Q4617%1 of 6 questions6
2025 Q1813%1 of 8 questions7
2025 Q2714%1 of 7 questions7
2025 Q3729%2 of 7 questions6
2025 Q4520%1 of 5 questions5
  1. 2024 Q46 questions · challenge rate 17% (1 of 6 questions) · 6 companies
  2. 2025 Q18 questions · challenge rate 13% (1 of 8 questions) · 7 companies
  3. 2025 Q27 questions · challenge rate 14% (1 of 7 questions) · 7 companies
  4. 2025 Q37 questions · challenge rate 29% (2 of 7 questions) · 6 companies
  5. 2025 Q45 questions · challenge rate 20% (1 of 5 questions) · 5 companies

Topics

Topics tagged on this analyst’s questions.

  • Margin13
  • Competitive Dynamics12
  • Guidance Reliability6
  • Innovation & R&D5
  • Pricing5
  • Regulation Policy5
  • Revenue Growth3
  • Demand3
  • Cloud & AI2
  • Cost Pressure2
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  • Capital Allocation2
  • Capex Investment2
  • Geographic Expansion2
  • M&A1
  • Subscriber Growth1